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== General guidelines ==
== General guidelines ==
Advice:
* It's okay to make typos, or other mistakes! Just try your best to look out for them, and fix any that you notice.
* If you're not sure about whether something should be modified, ask others! Every page has a little "Discussion" button above it which is specifically for discussing changes to a page.
* Wikipedia has a lot of guides to editing articles, and most of the time the same stuff can apply here.
* There's a Visual Editor and a Source Editor, try both to see which one you prefer.
* You can copy stuff from Wikipedia most of the time! It will probably need reformatting and rephrasing, but a lot of information is already out there and there's nothing wrong with using it!
* Note that citations from Wikipedia will break when pasted here, so you'll need to remove and recreate them (if necessary, we're not as strict with obvious details but a lot of things should still be cited)
Grammatical rules apply similar to Wikipedia. There are various features that may differ across personal preference, but some things that this wiki features include:
Grammatical rules apply similar to Wikipedia. There are various features that may differ across personal preference, but some things that this wiki features include:
* Oxford Commas will be used wherever necessary
* Oxford Commas will be used wherever necessary.
* Quotation marks should be double (") and not single ('), and punctuation should go outside. For example: *The song was described as "art pop", and* as opposed to *The song was described as 'art pop', and* or *The song was described as "art pop," and*.
* Quotation marks should be double (") and not single ('), and punctuation should go outside. For example: *The song was described as "art pop", and* as opposed to *The song was described as 'art pop', and* or *The song was described as "art pop," and*.
* Dates should be formatted as "October 8, 1980", or sometimes "1980-10-08" depending on context
* Dates should be formatted as "October 8, 1980", or sometimes "1980-10-08" depending on context.
* Standard title case rules should apply for which words to capitalize in a title (except for referring to a release whose official title does not follow these standards)
* Standard title case rules should apply for which words to capitalize in a title (except for referring to a release whose official title does not follow these standards)
* Within a regular sentence, titles should be referred to with italics, such as *Remain in Light*.
* Within a regular sentence, titles should be referred to with italics, such as *Remain in Light*.
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* The name of an article should be bolded in the opening sentence, like on Wikipedia.
* The name of an article should be bolded in the opening sentence, like on Wikipedia.
* Every article should include a link to its corresponding Wikipedia page at the top if one exists.
* Every article should include a link to its corresponding Wikipedia page at the top if one exists.
Notable differences from Wikipedia include:
* Titles of songs and albums are both formatted in italics like ''Once in a Lifetime'' and ''Remain in Light''. On Wikipedia, songs are in quote marks like "Once in a Lifetime", although albums are still in italics.
* Full names (with middle names) should be reserved for a separate part of a person's article than the first sentence. For example, "Jeremiah Griffin Harrison" would be the bolded part at the start of Jerry's Wikipedia page, but here it should just be "Jerry Harrison" and then his full name should be in the infobox and biography section.
* A lot of different things will be linked. For example, on Wikipedia there will be links to types of instruments like guitars. That isn't necessary here.
* You don't need to describe stuff as though the reader will not know Talking Heads. For example, an article can mention a song name without specifying that it's by Talking Heads, and the band don't need to be referred to like "the American rock band Talking Heads".


== People and bands ==
== People and bands ==


=== Who should have their own article? ===
=== Who should have an article? ===
This website considers various criteria that would make people relevant enough for their own article, including (but not limited to):
This website considers various criteria that would make people relevant enough for their own article, including (but not limited to):


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=== Format ===
=== Format ===
There is no fixed format for these articles but generally speaking the top section should summarize who they are, and (depending on context) should at least allude to their relevance to Talking Heads. The next section should be '''Connections''' and should list each "connection" to Talking Heads - which can include a lot of things, but for example it should include any of the things listed as bullet points giving criteria of who would have their own article. There can be an overview of an artist's career, discography, and personal life depending on how relevant they are. For example, [[David Bowie|Brian Eno]]'s page should include more details of his career, in a very summarized version of his Wikipedia page, and include his albums to the same extent that his own Wikipedia article does, both of which should include a ''Main article'' link to the Wikipedia article for his detailed discography. For somebody like [[Johnny Marr]] who is somewhat relevant to Talking Heads, it should likewise mention his albums (including with [[The Smiths]]) but not much more detail is necessary. For somebody like [[Paul Simon]] who is only slightly relevant to Talking Heads, it should pretty much entirely describe his performances with David Byrne without going into any real detail of his own career.
The opening sentence should contain the person's name in bold, but unlike Wikipedia this should not be the full extended name with middle name unless it's a regular part of how people refer to them. For example, it should be **Jerry Harrison** instead of **Jeremiah Griffin Harrison**. The full name should go in the infobox or biography section. Include the birthdate (and deathdate if applicable) in the same way as Wikipedia, using a format like (born May 14th 1952) or (April 19, 1944 – June 24, 2016). Most descriptions can work the same way as a Wikipedia summary, but try to describe what makes them relevant to Talking Heads as early as possible into the summary. This may be brief and then elaborated on further down in their page. Every person and band should have an infobox and a photo where possible. The next section should be '''Connections''' and should list each "connection" to Talking Heads - which can include a lot of things, but for example it should include any of the things that are listed above as criteria for who would have their own article.  
 
Sections for a musician may include sections such as Biography (or divided into sections like Early Life, Career, Personal Life, or whatever else fits their context). A discography section (just summarizing) is recommended for most artists unless they're barely relevant. For example, [[Brian Eno|Brian Eno]]'s page should include more details of his career, in a very summarized version of his Wikipedia page, and include his albums to the same extent that his own Wikipedia article does, both of which should include a ''Main article'' link to the Wikipedia article for his detailed discography. For somebody like [[Johnny Marr]] who is somewhat relevant to Talking Heads, it should likewise mention his albums (including with [[The Smiths]]) but not much more detail is necessary. For somebody like [[Paul Simon]] who is only slightly relevant to Talking Heads, it should pretty much entirely describe his performances with David Byrne without going into any real detail of his own career or listing his own discography.


== Albums ==
== Albums ==


=== What albums should have their own article? ===
=== What albums should have an article? ===
The following criteria would constitute an album having its own article:
The following criteria would constitute an album having its own article:


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=== Format ===
=== Format ===
<nowiki>#</nowiki> This part is still yet to be confirmed
For now, album articles should have pretty much entirely the same format as Wikipedia. Differences will emerge in future, but it's okay to just copy an album page from Wikipedia (ensuring that formatting is updated, such as song titles in italics instead of quotation marks, and relevant links being added to people who don't have Wikipedia pages and irrelevant links being removed to things that don't have pages here. The structure of an album article varies depending on what the album is, but [[Remain in Light]] is a good reference of what an album article should look like. Unlike Wikipedia, all albums that have been released by Talking Heads or its members should aim to eventually be equally detailed - at least depending on available information to include, as there are understandably albums with less documentation available about their recording sessions or background.


== Songs ==
== Songs ==
 
Note: unlike Wikipedia, song titles are written in italics like ''Once in a Lifetime'' instead of quotation marks like "Once in a Lifetime".
=== What songs should have their own article? ===
=== What songs should have an article? ===
The following criteria would constitute a song having its own article:
The following criteria would constitute a song having its own article:


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=== Format ===
=== Format ===
<nowiki>#</nowiki> This part is still yet to be confirmed
For now, song articles should have pretty much entirely the same format as Wikipedia - with the exception of Lyrics, which are not usually provided in full on Wikipedia but should be available here. For the most part, it's okay to just copy a song page from Wikipedia - ensuring that formatting is updated, such as song titles in italics instead of quotation marks, and relevant links being added to people who don't have Wikipedia pages and irrelevant links being removed to things that don't have pages here. The structure of a song article varies depending on what the song is, but [[Once in a Lifetime]] is a good reference for what a song article should look like. Unlike Wikipedia, all songs that have been released by Talking Heads or its members should aim to eventually be equally detailed - at least depending on available information to include, as there are understandably songs with less documentation available about their recording sessions or background.


== Other releases ==
== Other releases ==
Generally speaking, for a release like an E.P. the same rules apply as albums and songs. A release by various artists, such as [[Dark Was The Night]] should have an article like any other album. Soundtrack albums should also work this way too, like [[Something Wild (Soundtrack)]].   
Generally speaking, for a release like an E.P. the same rules apply as albums and songs. A release by various artists, such as [[Dark Was The Night]] should have an article like any other album. Soundtrack albums should also work this way too, like [[Something Wild (Soundtrack)]].   


== Concerts ==
== Events ==
This hasn't been established yet, but there will be an article for every concert that features at least one member of Talking Heads performing at least one song. This is a pretty wide encompassing criteria, but we're going for total documentation here! So every Talking Heads concert, every David Byrne concert, every Jerry Harrison concert (including with Adrian Belew), every Tom Tom Club concert, every The Heads concert, every pre-Talking Heads concert that includes the members (The Modern Lovers and The Artistics, primarily), every festival appearance (like Heatwave Festival, 1980), every guest appearance (like David Byrne at Paul Simon's NYC concert in 2011). The article should include the personnel, setlist, and available media to whatever extent possible. Concerts vary significantly so it's hard to specify a format but this will be formalized in future.  
Events include concerts, interviews on late night TV, Q&As, and potentially other notable one-off appearances by at least one member of Talking Heads. By default, an article title for an event should be in the format "Event:YYYY-MM-DD (Artist at Venue)". For example, "[[Event:1983-12-15 (Talking Heads at Pantages Theatre)]]". Sometimes, other details should be specified for clarity, or the title should match a distinct title provided for the event, such as "[[A Night of Stop Making Sense]]".


== Other events ==
There will be an article for every concert featuring at least one Talking Head member performing at least one song. This criteria is pretty broad, but we're going for thoroughly documented here! So that includes every Talking Heads concert, every David Byrne concert, every Jerry Harrison concert (including with Adrian Belew), every Tom Tom Club concert, every The Heads concert, every pre-Talking Heads concert that includes the members (The Modern Lovers and The Artistics, primarily), every festival appearance (like Heatwave Festival, 1980), every guest appearance (like David Byrne at Paul Simon's NYC concert in 2011), and every TV show performance (like Talking Heads on The Old Grey Whistle Test in 1978). The article should include the personnel (which musicians performed), setlist (which songs were performed), and any available media to whatever extent possible. Concerts vary significantly, so it's hard to specify a format that matches all of them, but the standards will be determined more specifically over time.
Other events will mostly be documented in the same way as concerts.


== Venues ==
== Venues ==
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== Books ==
== Books ==
Books by Talking Heads members, or about Talking Heads, will all have their own article in a standard Wikipedia format.
Books by Talking Heads members, or about Talking Heads, will all have their own article in a standard Wikipedia format. Titles should be in italics.


== Films and TV ==
== Films and TV ==
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* [[Until the End of the World]], featuring [[Sax and Violins]] written for the film
* [[Until the End of the World]], featuring [[Sax and Violins]] written for the film
* [[Everything Everywhere All At Once]], featuring [[This is a Life]] written for the film
* [[Everything Everywhere All At Once]], featuring [[This is a Life]] written for the film
* [[Trying Times]], featuring a cameo by [[David Byrne]]
* [[Trying Times]], featuring a main role by [[David Byrne]]
* [[The Darwin Awards]], featuring a brief cameo by [[Jerry Harrison]]
* [[Spiderman: No Way Home]], featuring [[I Zimbra]]
* [[Spiderman: No Way Home]], featuring [[I Zimbra]]
* [[Saturday Night Live]], featuring all the members on different occasions (including Talking Heads themselves in 1979)
* [[Saturday Night Live]], featuring all the members on different occasions (including Talking Heads themselves in 1979)